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		<title>Comment on Thoughts on the Death of Lazarus by Jesus and Lazarus &#124; Stonegate Family Life</title>
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		<description>[...] on Jesus and Lazarus, and Jesus raising Lazarus from the dead. I just posted a couple of summaries: Thoughts on the Death of Lazarus and The Death of Lazarus and Jesus Compared that might be of some interest to you. Also, you can add [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Lessons I Learned from Francis Schaeffer No. 10 by &#248; Osu .com - Official &#248;</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 06:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hi, I like the post so I put a link to it on my blog. [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Lessons I Learned from Francis Schaeffer No. 9 by Agidoo Press &#187; Lessons I Learned from Francis Schaeffer No. 9</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agidoo Press &#187; Lessons I Learned from Francis Schaeffer No. 9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] here to read the rest: Lessons I Learned from Francis Schaeffer No. 9  Rate this topic: (No Ratings Yet)  Tagged with: [ author, bible, christian, christianity, church, [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on How Would You Describe Your Church? by Topics about Christian life and Bible readings &#187; Archive &#187; How Would You Describe Your Church?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Topics about Christian life and Bible readings &#187; Archive &#187; How Would You Describe Your Church?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Journal Gazette and Times Courier placed an interesting blog post on How Would You Describe Your Church?Here&#8217;s a brief overview The Cumberland Presbyterian magazine is usually worth reading from cover to cover. Great articles all the way through. In the February 2009 issue, Jonathan Clark wrote an article about some of the trials that early CP ministers and churches faced. To learn more about the CP Magazine, go to http://www.cpmag.org . Today, I wrote some of my thoughts to some others on an e-mail discussion list called “The Cumberlist.” Here are some of the thoughts I shared that are miscellaneous thoughts that rela [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Journal Gazette and Times Courier placed an interesting blog post on How Would You Describe Your Church?Here&#8217;s a brief overview The Cumberland Presbyterian magazine is usually worth reading from cover to cover. Great articles all the way through. In the February 2009 issue, Jonathan Clark wrote an article about some of the trials that early CP ministers and churches faced. To learn more about the CP Magazine, go to <a href="http://www.cpmag.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.cpmag.org</a> . Today, I wrote some of my thoughts to some others on an e-mail discussion list called “The Cumberlist.” Here are some of the thoughts I shared that are miscellaneous thoughts that rela [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to Prepare for Pastoral Ministry by Pages tagged "ministry"</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pages tagged "ministry"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bookmarks tagged ministry How to Prepare for Pastoral Ministry &#124; Parkhurst P...&#160;saved by 5 others  &#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;micheallover66 bookmarked on 02/18/09 &#124; [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Mideast Land: Gifts from God by marianneloveridge</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So this brings us to the question as to who the true descendants of Abraham really are in the spiritual sense.  Romans 9:24-26 and the following chapters speak to the issue of Gentile believers being grafted in as the people of God and heirs of the promises too.  I can&#039;t buy the whole replacement theology position, but I wonder to what extent God really cares about the quantity of Hebrew DNA a person has to qualify him for privileged status.  I would tend to agree that the new covenant supersedes the old with regard to the land issues, but I still have a problem with the idea of God using language like &quot;forever&quot; in His promises to the descendants of Israel, and those physical geographical boundary markers having never been actually fulfilled.  So many eschatological dilemmas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this brings us to the question as to who the true descendants of Abraham really are in the spiritual sense.  Romans 9:24-26 and the following chapters speak to the issue of Gentile believers being grafted in as the people of God and heirs of the promises too.  I can&#8217;t buy the whole replacement theology position, but I wonder to what extent God really cares about the quantity of Hebrew DNA a person has to qualify him for privileged status.  I would tend to agree that the new covenant supersedes the old with regard to the land issues, but I still have a problem with the idea of God using language like &#8220;forever&#8221; in His promises to the descendants of Israel, and those physical geographical boundary markers having never been actually fulfilled.  So many eschatological dilemmas!</p>
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		<title>Comment on An Authentic Christian Community by LGP</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent Observations! As I think of Christian community, I would like for people to think when they come into contact with such a group that &quot;God is obviously present here,&quot; and &quot;See how they love one another.&quot; Too often, the former is identified with &quot;signs and wonders&quot; being manifested in a group; whereas, I think God can also be present in &quot;the still small voice.&quot; The Holy Spirit within the believer needs to testify to their heart that God is in this place. Of course, a more objective standard is faithful teaching and practice of the Bible: is this observed in the community? Secondly, there does need to be real love that is inspired by God and the desire to love and serve God first and foremost in one&#039;s life. This love, then, needs to be the motivator for the list of things you have described above. Thanks for the comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent Observations! As I think of Christian community, I would like for people to think when they come into contact with such a group that &#8220;God is obviously present here,&#8221; and &#8220;See how they love one another.&#8221; Too often, the former is identified with &#8220;signs and wonders&#8221; being manifested in a group; whereas, I think God can also be present in &#8220;the still small voice.&#8221; The Holy Spirit within the believer needs to testify to their heart that God is in this place. Of course, a more objective standard is faithful teaching and practice of the Bible: is this observed in the community? Secondly, there does need to be real love that is inspired by God and the desire to love and serve God first and foremost in one&#8217;s life. This love, then, needs to be the motivator for the list of things you have described above. Thanks for the comments!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mideast Land: Gifts from God by LGP</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your thoughts also make me think about conditional and unconditional covenants. I am wondering now if the land grants to Ishmael might have been conditional, and if so if the Ishmaelites might have broken the conditions to retain their possession (or occupation) of their land. For example, Israel has lost possession (or occupation) of their land at various times, because of their disloyalty to God. It appears to me that the Ishmaelites have too. Secondly, God made a new covenant with Israel that includes all those who trust in Jesus the Messiah for salvation: this would include both the descendants of Isaac and Ishmael. In light of the new covenant, the physical land claims of either group may mean very little to God. We are promised a new heaven and a new earth, and as I read the New Testament, I do not see much attention given to land claims, but all nations living together in peace under the Lordship of Jesus Christ, after He returns. Prior to His return, we will probably continue to have land disputes in the Middle East, with little resolution to these taking place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your thoughts also make me think about conditional and unconditional covenants. I am wondering now if the land grants to Ishmael might have been conditional, and if so if the Ishmaelites might have broken the conditions to retain their possession (or occupation) of their land. For example, Israel has lost possession (or occupation) of their land at various times, because of their disloyalty to God. It appears to me that the Ishmaelites have too. Secondly, God made a new covenant with Israel that includes all those who trust in Jesus the Messiah for salvation: this would include both the descendants of Isaac and Ishmael. In light of the new covenant, the physical land claims of either group may mean very little to God. We are promised a new heaven and a new earth, and as I read the New Testament, I do not see much attention given to land claims, but all nations living together in peace under the Lordship of Jesus Christ, after He returns. Prior to His return, we will probably continue to have land disputes in the Middle East, with little resolution to these taking place.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An Authentic Christian Community by marianneloveridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>marianneloveridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some other aspects of &quot;community&quot; that I have observed are necessary to creating this authentic experience would include the following: geographical proximity,  frequency of contact, shared experiences (from the mundane to the sublime), eating together often, physically working together, engaging in combat together, performing community service projects together, as well as the more pietistic activities of prayer and Bible-study, etc.   There is a nuts and bolts practicality of &quot;doing life&quot; together that is impossible to achieve in the prevalent car-culture big-church show-up-at-Sunday school thing that struggles to pass itself off as authentic Christianity.  The need for &quot;community&quot; is the number one cry of the human heart, the most basic of all spiritual needs, the absence of which creates the most loneliness and despondency as is so obviously prevalent on the planet today. Community doesn&#039;t happen by chance: it must be intentional, organic, and ideally, pedestrian-friendly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some other aspects of &#8220;community&#8221; that I have observed are necessary to creating this authentic experience would include the following: geographical proximity,  frequency of contact, shared experiences (from the mundane to the sublime), eating together often, physically working together, engaging in combat together, performing community service projects together, as well as the more pietistic activities of prayer and Bible-study, etc.   There is a nuts and bolts practicality of &#8220;doing life&#8221; together that is impossible to achieve in the prevalent car-culture big-church show-up-at-Sunday school thing that struggles to pass itself off as authentic Christianity.  The need for &#8220;community&#8221; is the number one cry of the human heart, the most basic of all spiritual needs, the absence of which creates the most loneliness and despondency as is so obviously prevalent on the planet today. Community doesn&#8217;t happen by chance: it must be intentional, organic, and ideally, pedestrian-friendly.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mideast Land: Gifts from God by marianneloveridge</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your motto says it all...&quot;prolonging inconclusive thinking&quot;.  After rereading Genesis 15-17 today I could see where the non-Isaaic descendants of Abraham have Biblical basis to lay claim to their land portions, but in 17:21 God says He will make His covenant with Isaac (not Ishmael).  Then there&#039;s the geographical boundary descriptions of 15:18, and to whom does this apply?  Now I am wondering just what exactly are the components of the covenant...land, numerous descendants, fruitfulness, royal authorities, etc...God seems to imply at first reading that all the descendants of Abraham are recipients of the covenant, but 17:20-21 is the clincher.  So the land issue arises again...what are the land aspects of the covenant and with whom is the covenant made????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your motto says it all&#8230;&#8221;prolonging inconclusive thinking&#8221;.  After rereading Genesis 15-17 today I could see where the non-Isaaic descendants of Abraham have Biblical basis to lay claim to their land portions, but in 17:21 God says He will make His covenant with Isaac (not Ishmael).  Then there&#8217;s the geographical boundary descriptions of 15:18, and to whom does this apply?  Now I am wondering just what exactly are the components of the covenant&#8230;land, numerous descendants, fruitfulness, royal authorities, etc&#8230;God seems to imply at first reading that all the descendants of Abraham are recipients of the covenant, but 17:20-21 is the clincher.  So the land issue arises again&#8230;what are the land aspects of the covenant and with whom is the covenant made????</p>
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